but yet as much as that's true, remember, george w. bush spent a lot of dough, the president, current president, president barack obama, ramped it up. there was no chirping then. i didn't hear chirping going we're going to hit $16 trillion at midnight, let's party! no. but the effects of less government spending definitely going to slow things down because you're not paying for it but it's a good thing. somebody broke the silence, i think it was bank of america, victoria mcgrain from "wall street journal" wrote a piece on wall street journal.com and it talks about the agenda for jackson hole. it's august 22nd to 24th. think about what i was saying. wouldn't it be nice if central bankers got together and tried to really figure out how to solve some of the structural issues? but the topics that were put forth, same old thing. the natural rate of interest, financial prices at zero lower bond, the transition of unconventional monetary policy. global liquidity, cross border cap flows. it seems to me that these are the same old topics, the c